silverburn Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Hello again all, Another one ready for inspection! Original build threads is here. Usual caveats apply: - I don't airbrush, because I don't have one. And believe me, I could have done with one this time! Problems: - THE PAINT!! The rattle cans really killed me this time...the nozzles are so primitive, and the paint too thick, it destroyed my pre-shading! It just layed on far too thick. That and the fact I couldn't find exact colours to match this time...grey after shade of grey just can't be done with cans. You really do need to mix. So the colours here aren't fantastic, but if you squint.... On the flip side...Revells choice of colours was...interesting. An almost white for the intakes? strange.... - The lines! For the pre-shading, I improvised by...penciling the lines back in! It looked dreadful, with massive thick lines...so much so I almost started from scratch again. But I took a punt and sponge washed it, and hey presto, it came back! - The glass I don't know what happened, but when I superglued the front canopy in place, it "steamed up"! Very strange... - The bombs Ok, I took a complete liberty here...I almost had the Paveways in as well as the shadows, but they almost interfered with each other! That was stretching plausibility just a wee bit....My decision process was simple - I chose the ones I thought looked the best. I'm especially proud of the shadows...and before you ask, no they're not pink!! It's because of.... - The camera! Yes, it's rubbish! I really must work on a way of taking better shots. - The pit My first foray into etches...and it was painful. The parts were so small (I'm a newbie remember), and managed to get glue everywhere; very annoying. I worked out that the best way is to create a puddle of it, and apply using a toothpick! I'll remember next time...it's a mere 4/10 this time. Anyway - to the pics! . . . . . . . . .
Buzby061 Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Don't look half bad from where I'm sat, especially considering the rattle cans. Buy yourself an airbrush, it'll be a Christmas present. Go on, you know you want to! - The glass I don't know what happened, but when I superglued the front canopy in place, it "steamed up"! Very strange... Superglue can fog canopies. Dipping them in Klear before getting out the finger sticking together stuff usually works. Pete
Dave Gibson Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) - The glassI don't know what happened, but when I superglued the front canopy in place, it "steamed up"! Very strange... Can I first of all congratulate you. I've been following this build with interest. Can I warn you that when you buy that airbrush, your building time will increase by a large factor. I'm speaking from experience on this one! As previously mentioned in another post, a coat of Future/Klear would have prevented the fogging of the "glass". If you get some Future/Klear, try brushing some into the foggy area with a fine brush, it should improve the situation. Keep the amount you brush in, to a minimum and make sure your brush is spotlessly clean. Dave. Edited November 19, 2009 by Dave Gibson
silverburn Posted November 19, 2009 Author Posted November 19, 2009 Can I first of all congratulate you. I've been following this build with interest. Can I warn you that when you buy that airbrush, your building time will increase by a large factor. I'm speaking from experience on this one! As previously mentioned in another post, a coat of Future/Klear would have prevented the fogging of the "glass". If you get some Future/Klear, try brushing some into the foggy area with a fine brush, it should improve the situation. Keep the amount you brush in, to a minimum and make sure your brush is spotlessly clean. Dave. Thanks! I can only imagine about the airbrush...it'll be a whole new learning curve, but worth it long term!! Can I order Future/Klear online anywhere?
AdriaN (MLT) Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 When sticking canopies, to be safe, ditch the super glue cos it will ruin stuff and use pva glue! it dries clear and doesnt damage!
Dave Gibson Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) Thanks!I can only imagine about the airbrush...it'll be a whole new learning curve, but worth it long term!! Can I order Future/Klear online anywhere? I wouldn't bother to order on-line. I've bought generic variations in several countries. Just check the supermarket for a wipe-on and leave floor treatment. I bought Bissell Mop-n-Shine in Jordan and Johnsons Wipe-n-Shine inthe Philippines. Mind you, using Gator Glue to attach the "glass" would give you a good attachment without fogging problems. AFAIK, Gator Glue is best obtained on-line. Dave Edited November 20, 2009 by Dave Gibson
Yellow07 Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Excellent ^^ I'd use more weathering where the APU exhaust is, but that is a grand example
Angels49 Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 A cracking build mate......nothing to lose any zzzzz's over...
Bobski Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 Very nice, especially seeing as it's your first foray into 1/48th scale (good choice of subject by the way ) One quick comment - the ASRAAMs would not be loaded directly onto the pylon - there's a launch rail that needs to be added before you can load AA missiles there. Otherwise it's very nice indeed. Re the Glass - to prevent such an occurence next time try using a different glue, such as Humbrol Clearfix, rather than Superglue. Clearfix is designed to glue transparancies without the fogging that comes from using more powerful, solvent-based adhesives.
silverburn Posted November 21, 2009 Author Posted November 21, 2009 Very nice, especially seeing as it's your first foray into 1/48th scale (good choice of subject by the way )One quick comment - the ASRAAMs would not be loaded directly onto the pylon - there's a launch rail that needs to be added before you can load AA missiles there. Otherwise it's very nice indeed. Re the Glass - to prevent such an occurence next time try using a different glue, such as Humbrol Clearfix, rather than Superglue. Clearfix is designed to glue transparancies without the fogging that comes from using more powerful, solvent-based adhesives. Thanks for the compliment - all of you! Re: ASRAAMs...I didn't know that..was that in the instructions? I have to confess to "winging it" on the home stretch, so must have missed that. Thanks for the heads up though - I might need it when I do the Revell 1/32 version (hints to wife...who's not got my xmas present yet....)
F-32 Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 I think its come up nicely, the panel shading is about right, the colour is a bit glossy but as you say its extremely difficult with cans - I have the same problem myself.
Bobski Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Thanks for the compliment - all of you!Re: ASRAAMs...I didn't know that..was that in the instructions? I have to confess to "winging it" on the home stretch, so must have missed that. Thanks for the heads up though - I might need it when I do the Revell 1/32 version (hints to wife...who's not got my xmas present yet....) It's not in the instructions because the extra rails are not included in the kit. They can be scratchbuilt quite easily from some styrene rod though, using the rails in the kit as a basis (but leaving off the chaff dispensers at the back). I've also been dropping hints about the new 1/32nd version. There are going to be at least two from me, one with the engine in and anothe with it out and some super detailing in the engine bay.
HOUSTON Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 AWESOME BUILD ... Love the LOADOUT too....EXCELLENT.... HOUSTON
Mark M Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 cracking build, ditto what everyone else said about the glass one other point the storm shaddow should be a darker grey storm shaddow otherwise spot on
dahut Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Very gray, pointy and jabby - as such things should be. Dont mind any pitfalls, they've been sorted here well enough by the attentive and amiable BM folks. You will learn better on the next one. For now, this one cuts the mustard just fine. I was glad to hear you tried penciling the lines. Thats one of my favorite tricks and if done well under the clear coats, it comes out nice.
silverburn Posted November 29, 2009 Author Posted November 29, 2009 cracking build, ditto what everyone else said about the glassone other point the storm shaddow should be a darker grey storm shaddow otherwise spot on Yes, this is actually my reference pic! It's just my dodgy camera..the rest of the colours are good, but the shadows come out as a lilac! Very strange...I really like these Shadows - in proper light they're my favourite weapon on this. THanks for all the compliments guys...when I get onto the 1/32, it'll be better!
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