canopy covers

[AdriaN (MLT)]

Guys, im about to make a canopy cover for my Mystere. Just some advice on how/ what to use pls? What tissue is best? how can i remove the creases?

I am planning to brush thinned pva onto tissue paper, place it on the model (with a protective layer of plastic food wrap under it) and let dry. what about using foil?

I read about a technique using tea bags! (without tea of course)

Tipo..

Edited February 22, 2011 by AdriaN (MLT)

[AdriaN (MLT)]

So many peeps make em, no answers?

[cynicaljohnny]

Haven't done this for canopy covers for aircraft, but did try it on some armour years ago - teabags were used, and from memory, balsa aircraft "dope" over the top, to shrink it slightly and make it go taut. Not sure I'd try and get all the wrinkles out, thogh - might look a bit more interesting with a few left in?

Edited February 23, 2011 by cynicaljohnny

[Mike]

Lead or pewter sheet maybe?

[Paul]

Its not a great pic, but I made the intake cover for this in exactly the way you described with the tissue paper and watered down pva.

I found it worked a treat, the only difficult bit is cutting a good edge on it when its dry. I just made several and picked the best one.

Oh, and using very small strips of tissue helps to make it a bit less even.

[AdriaN (MLT)]

Its not a great pic, but I made the intake cover for this in exactly the way you described with the tissue paper and watered down pva.

I found it worked a treat, the only difficult bit is cutting a good edge on it when its dry. I just made several and picked the best one.

Oh, and using very small strips of tissue helps to make it a bit less even.

CHEERS!

Say do you first get a sheet of tissue and brush pva, then place it OR do you place the tissue over part, then brush pva??

What tissue paper has least creases? what did you use?

[Paul]

CHEERS!

Say do you first get a sheet of tissue and brush pva, then place it OR do you place the tissue over part, then brush pva??

What tissue paper has least creases? what did you use?

I found that putting a large piece over the whole thing (twin ply toilet roll) dry to make a base and then just dabbed the pva mix on to that (the tissue just sucks the mix into it).

When this was dry i put the rest of the layers on in small pieces and let the whole lot dry in one go.

Good luck!

[speedy]

I've done this before. A single sheet from a box of tissues, PVA glue + water. Cut what you need size wise and place it over the canopy. Put on the PVA/Water mix and leave to dry (airing cupboard), when its dry with a sharp scalple cut what you want and its done. When its wet you can move the creases around to what you want as generally there are some, but if not cut down the crease and overlap a little, so when its drying you should have a tight fitting cover.

Harmless plug:

BM - Sea Fury

[AdriaN (MLT)]

THANKS GUYS!

[robw_uk]

only just seen this... my moethod ( you can see the results on the MB326 on the WHIF GB) - NOTE i did use Speedy's Sea Fury as my guide - his is 100% better than my effort

1) split 2-ply tissue into individual sheets

2) place 1 sheet over canopy and check it conforms

3) brush with PVA, adding a few pleats for interest, so that it is glued slightly larger than the area you need

4) once dry, you should be able to remove it from he kit

5) add 2nd sheet of single ply and PVA again

6) cut to shape

7) paint

8) weather

9) add to model

10 ignore future advicefrom RObW as this is too complex

lol - well you can see my effort, and most likely I will repeat on the MiG-17 I am starting as the cockpit is astonishingly baaaaaaaaaaaaaad

Edited March 7, 2011 by robw_uk

[AdriaN (MLT)]

Cover is done. It was a bit frustrating because it kept tearing or formed holes, when ever i tried to help it fall into place, or when i tried to create creases . OR it got stuck to my fingers & tore (all these because it was wet). It tore around 2 times. I used 2 ply tissue. Its painted and shaped. Unfortunately it show its tissue because the tissue creases show up

Now i need to see how im gonna weather it *gulp*

Dry brush? washes?

Edited March 7, 2011 by AdriaN (MLT)

[robw_uk]

Cover is done. It was a bit frustrating because it kept tearing or formed holes, when ever i tried to help it fall into place, or when i tried to create creases . OR it got stuck to my fingers & tore (all these because it was wet). It tore around 2 times. I used 2 ply tissue. Its painted and shaped. Unfortunately it show its tissue because the tissue creases show up

Now i need to see how im gonna weather it *gulp*

Dry brush? washes?

i guess tarpaulin would fade so washing.... think I relied on my terrible airbrushing skills on my first one - I guess you would do it as per any material (so the realms of figure painting I guess)

[FalkeEins]

rather than do this direct onto the kit, perhaps cover the area concerned with kitchen foil, smoothed down to make the shape. This can then be tissue'd and pva'd and painted off the model.. if you get my drift..

[AdriaN (MLT)]

Its ok i managed!

I drybrushed it with the canopy blue and added to it light grey, progressively. Until I ended just using light grey alone on the highest parts of the folds. Then a very light black oil wash with a fine brush onto the recessed parts of the folds to create depth, shadows and a bit of a dirt filter.

I am now contemplating whether i should do tying cables for the cover

For a first timer... im impressed!

Edited March 8, 2011 by AdriaN (MLT)

[robw_uk]

you should be impressed - neat.... dont suppose you were considerate to your fellow modellers and took step-by-step shots? the MIG will have a cover too, hope it looks as good as yours.....

[speedy]

Looks fine to me. What scale is it?, if its 1/48 you may get away with thread, the Klear the model and it will make all those fibres dye down or stretched sprue. If you have problems with stretched spure, drop me a line and I'll create some and post it to you...............

Steve.

[AdriaN (MLT)]

*Rob:

The only progress photo i took was this. As you can see i used a layer of kitchen plastic wrap (for obivious reasons), then placted the tissue over it, then pva. The most important part of the cover is defintely the weathering.. it bings it all out! When the cover is wet.. it can tear really easily!

*Speedy:

It is 1:72! i was thinking of using very thin copper wire. I have tried stretching sprue.. very hard to do. Wire is better i think since you can shape it.

What do you mean by ''the Klear the model and it will make all those fibres dye down''?

Edited March 9, 2011 by AdriaN (MLT)

[Jeff Wilson]

I did a similar thing a number of years ago, but I added some acrylic (Gunze or Tamiya - can't recall now) to the dilute PVA to colour the tissue. I weathered it with a wash of oils and white spirit, then drybrushed with Humbrol enamels. Model is the Hobbycraft 1/48th P-40B and the cover was used to hide a canopy that split down the middle as it was being polished!

That's a very nice Mystere you've made.

Jeff

[robw_uk]

oh er now that is also a nice canopy cover......

thanks for the tip Adrian - will try that with the MiG