Deanflyer Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hi folks, apologies if you've seen this over on the What If GB, but several people are posting their completed builds on RFI too so I thought I'd join them. I hope it's not bad form, it's just that looking through the old RFI threads is sort of a filing system for me, helping me to remember what I built and in what order. I'm just including this here for housekeeping purposes, and to bring it to the attention of people who aren't watching the GBs. Anyway, the premise was that the jet engine had never been invented, and the Canberra had been designed on more traditional lines around the Merlin engine. The GB build article is here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=54759 but here's the finished article: Cheers, Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I must say that's rather nice! very Mosquitoesc, very well done. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skii Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 That is bloody awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRanger Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I'm not really carried away with What Ifs but that is very nice. Very well finished too with no obvious gaps/filling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 10 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 From a WHIF cynic.... that is a beautifully designed and executed build. Dont underestimate how hard it is for me to say that LOL!!! Richard McC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookedmouth Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Was I the only one to LOL? That plane would never get into service - the ladder has serious H&S issues! Dean - that's fab! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz greenwood Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This has to be your best yet Dean. I love this Lancberra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Strop Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 lol... it's so wrong, but it looks like it should of been so right!!! Genius idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvr6 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 thats imaculate!! wouldnt itv had griffons in it though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Stunning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I have to admit, when I saw the heading I groaned inwardly, but, hells bells, that looks so cool & so believable. You've done a fantastic job of that. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanflyer Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks for the extra comments folks, I appreciate it. As for the ladder, did you know that it was designed and built by a professional health and safety consultant, painted hazard yellow as a warning against trips and collisions, regularly inspected as part of the DIs, it's less than 9m high so doesn't require a staging point and there are even yellow stripes on the fuselage warning where the propellor arc goes. As far as risk assessment goes, I think I've got it pretty well covered as far as 'reasonably practicable' is concerned... Nice to think that people think it would have been feasible...that's what I was aiming for. Cheers, Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 That's a beautifully executed model. I'd have thought that fitting a pair of Griffons with contra-rotating props could have been a possible solution to the power issues...or even Griffons with one forward facing prop, and one rearward facing prop where the jetpipes usually exit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard of Effingham Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 very nice. just one question though! what's happening to the lancaster and the avon engines from the donor kits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Brilliant build Doesn't it just look so right...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 nice one Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) Brilliant build Doesn't it just look so right...? It's a beautifully done job and a real eye-catcher, but I have to say if I were walking out to test-fly it I would be thinking "here's a big heavy aeroplane with two small and comparatively weedy engines", and loking thoughtfully at whether there were any trees at the upwind end of the runway. A Canberra weighs about 10 tonnes empty, probably 11 tonnes with a pair of Merlins slung on it, so it would actually fly all right, with that big wing, providing you didn't try to carry anything significant. Probably be flat out at about 250 mph though. A pair of the tuned up Corncobs that went on some of the B-50s, the R-4360-51 VDT at 4,300 hp a side, would probably make it quite sporty, though of course they would be a lot heavier again. Edited to say I'be just had a look at the built thread, and it's an excellent read full of drama, sawing things up, Plastic Padding and all sorts of fun. Funnily enough there's a picture of it part-done in which it reminds me of a Manchester, in that it looks to me as if it really wants the other two engines! Edited October 4, 2010 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith in the uk Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Wow , fantastic build and quite a nice looking plane , love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 It's a beautifully done job and a real eye-catcher, but I have to say if I were walking out to test-fly it I would be thinking "here's a big heavy aeroplane with two small and comparatively weedy engines", and loking thoughtfully at whether there were any trees at the upwind end of the runway. A Canberra weighs about 10 tonnes empty, probably 11 tonnes with a pair of Merlins slung on it, so it would actually fly all right, with that big wing, providing you didn't try to carry anything significant. Probably be flat out at about 250 mph though. Yeah, but this is the Mark 1 I'd guess the later versions were updated with upgraded engines etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Yeah, but this is the Mark 1I'd guess the later versions were updated with upgraded engines etc... Mmmm, that plexiglass nose looks about the same size and shape as a spinner too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanflyer Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 He he he... got a good bit of discussion going on here, eh? To address some of your points, the original backstory states that the Canberra did not perform as expected, and as such had a relatively short service life, being replaced in 1952 with new six engined bombers capable of carrying the nuclear weapons necessary for the emerging Cold War. So yes, the engines WERE a bit weedy, but I had already compared the Canberra size and weight with the Manchester during the design phase and had come to the conclusion that with two late Merlins it'd fly about the same as the Manc did with Vultures. Also, the reason it hasn't got Griffons in it is because I didn't think of that... I did mention somewhere in the build thread that if someone wants to attempt a Mk2, be my guest... As to the fate of the rest of the Lancaster parts Trevor - the inner nacelles, props, spinners, undercarriage and nose blister have been used, the top wing halves have been sawn up, the outer nacelles and props have been sent to someone else who requested them, and the Avons from the Canberra were pretty much beyond repair when I'd sawn them off. So don't panic, there's not a jet engined Lanc in the works if that's what you're worried about! Or were there some Lanc spares you were after? As to everyone else who commented, thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Cheers, Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 That looks great! the merlins don't look out of place.Good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pte1643 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The Trent Meteor's bigger brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Brilliant Dean, love the backstory and as you know I likey odd looking beasts, (well you've seen the wife!). The stance is very Dornier DO 17 meets little Stirling. I think the proportions look right with the only exception for me being the size of the massive mainwheels...(would never get bogged down in a muddy grass field!). I think you ought to think about producing a 'final' variant of the beast fully loaded with a Red Beard or Blue Danube...God alone knows what engines and high lift devices you would need to get it into the air...hang on, how about some super sprites!!, Great stuff mate...(bring it to Newark, we'll shove it on the Cold War table and see if anyone can work it out... ), Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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