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Hello guys,

just finished my second "what if" model based on the Airfix's TSR.2 kit.

After the RAF Eagle GR.4A, I decide to build an electronic warfare/SEAD version of an hypotetical operational TSR.2.

Enjoy the pics and let me know what do you think!

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CIAO!

Piero

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Posted
Absolutely and utterly fantastic!

The best TSR.2 variant I've yet seen - I love it!!!

:goodjob:

Spence

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:ditto: Fantastic

Andy :worthy:

Posted (edited)

Nice model but...

The TSR2 had no rudder or indeed control surfaces in the conventional manner. The entire fin was the rudder whilst the wing had no ailerons, only blown flaps, essential for precise control on landing and take off with such a small highly loaded wing. There were no ailerons or elevators, these were conbined in the tailplanes, the term "tailerons" being coined by BAC. The breakdown of the kit parts, with the tail surfaces joining the fuselage by a central spigot mount, accurately portrays the breakdown of the real thing.

In addition, there would have been ample space elsewhere in the airframe for the ELINT gear housed in the tailtip pod. Which could not and would not have been placed there on the real thing because it would ruin the control and flying qualities of the aircraft.

Finally, the refueling probe is on the wrong side. Everyone seems to have been conditioned by the Tornado which has the IFR probe on the starboard side whereas the TSR2 had the plumbing on the port side (the long panel under the cockpit is where it would have been mounted) and the crews entered by ladders on the starboard side. I did at Cosford some years back and it's quite a distance above the ground.

Edited by The wooksta V2.0
Posted (edited)
Nice model but...

The TSR2 had no rudder or indeed control surfaces in the conventional manner. The entire fin was the rudder whilst the wing had no ailerons, only blown flaps, essential for precise control on landing and take off with such a small highly loaded wing. There were no ailerons or elevators, these were conbined in the tailplanes, the term "tailerons" being coined by BAC. The breakdown of the kit parts, with the tail surfaces joining the fuselage by a central spigot mount, accurately portrays the breakdown of the real thing.

In addition, there would have been ample space elsewhere in the airframe for the ELINT gear housed in the tailtip pod. Which could not and would not have been placed there on the real thing because it would ruin the control and flying qualities of the aircraft.

Finally, the refueling probe is on the wrong side. Everyone seems to have been conditioned by the Tornado which has the IFR probe on the starboard side whereas the TSR2 had the plumbing on the port side (the long panel under the cockpit is where it would have been mounted) and the crews entered by ladders on the starboard side. I did at Cosford some years back and it's quite a distance above the ground.

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Sorry you just cannot quantify that, the TSR2's that were produced were trial aircraft and far from operational versions, locations of inflight refuelling may well have changed if the system had ever got to the stage of testing and development, so to dismiss it is totally unfair and possibly totally wrong, but we will never know, again the tailplane may have gone through significant changes, after all think HUnter and MRCA.....we will never know

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Posted

hubba hubba hubba!

I like that one. The TSR2 does lend itself to these whiffer schemes. The Standard ARM looks almost small under the wing!

What paints did you use as they look spot on

Julien

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Fantastic job again Piero! You have done a great job on the painting and panel lines (again) that I fear ever getting my two kits out of the box!!

Each time I see a TSR2 in a What-If scheme like this, I think how close we must have been to producing a world beater.

Posted

Piero

Absolutely stunning stuff. Love the build and the thought that's gone behind it (both builds).

I intend to plagerise mercilessly!!!

Thank you for posting

Graham

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

I can only agree with what everyone else is saying. Easily the best TSR2 I've seen yet, WHIF or not.

No offence wooksta, but I think criticising a what if model for 'inaccuracies' is a bit much :shrug:

Jen.

Posted

What an inspiring WHIF - just a thought - with the other production changes shown, and discussed :evil_laugh: would the rather small canopy clear area have survived into production, particularly for export versions? I can hardly see the IDF/AF or SAAF being greatly happy with what are basically day night indicators ... I imagine they were made so small as an anti flash measure?

Mike

Posted

Simply fantastic :partytime::partytime:

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