Jessica Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 We need more classics. I'm probably being a little silly attempting two at once, but here's the Welsh Models Tudor. A nice airplane spoiled by being about 10 years too late for its time.
RNoAF Aerobatic Team Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Ambitious of you all. Trying to finish more than one;-) I am taking the hobby "cave" apart during the weekend. Have to take up the floor and in with a new as the hole house has sagged. Because of that I'll be happy if I can finish one;-)
AndyC Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Now THAT is more like it! Always had a soft spot for the Tudor - there was a long article on the history of them in my first ever copy of Aeroplane Monthly (in about 1975! )
Mike N Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Lovely choice, something out of the ordinary Mike
Jessica Posted September 15, 2012 Author Posted September 15, 2012 The starting point: And as if I haven't given myself too much to do, it turns out that this one also meets the criteria of not being too started. I may regain sanity and finish it later though. Stay tuned...
Marcos Borges Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Very nice model Jessica. I like these old aircraft very much. I did some drawings of it some months ago for a friend here in Brazil that is building one in the BSAA colors. Cheers, Marcos.
living legend Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Nice Jessica! If time permits I may do a vac or resin kit for my 2nd build. 1
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 Another vacform build, great! I like to see how others tackle these. Nice subjects too
Jessica Posted November 28, 2012 Author Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) Now I return to the Tudor to demonstrate my method of sanding out the vac parts. First I sprayed the sheet in overall grey (I used Tamiya RLM 75 because that was what was in the can I picked up). Once it was dry, I scored around the parts and snapped them from their backing sheet. This took about 2 minutes. Note the white below the grey. This must go. And 15 minutes later, it's gone. Pay particular attention to the tip of the fin and its trailing edge, These have to be very sharp. It's very hard to tell because the flash washed out the difference between the sanded and unsanded plastic. Cut out the tailwheel well and add tabs of plastic card. Lastly, I glued everything together. This is the result of about a half hour's modelling. The right fuselage side turned out to be slightly larger than the left, something hardly uncommon in the world of vacufrom kits. Once I get to the sanding and filling I'll even that difference out. Edited November 28, 2012 by Jessica
EricP Posted November 28, 2012 Posted November 28, 2012 Nice! Interesting that you sprayed the entire fuselage grey, I can see it will help when it comes to seamwork later (not sure if that's your intent). I've only tried the "black-marker-around-outline" trick.
Kev1n Posted November 28, 2012 Posted November 28, 2012 how-to in one easy lesson - take note and do, the shy-of-vacs amongst us nice work jessica
Jessica Posted November 30, 2012 Author Posted November 30, 2012 Filler on... Filler off... There will be more filling to do after this, but next, the stabilisers!
The wooksta V2.0 Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 Very tasty. I've a soft sport for the Tudor and the Ashton too. Real shame that there isn't a 72nd kit, although I've had plans to scratch one using parts of the Frog Shackleton.
Murdo Posted November 30, 2012 Posted November 30, 2012 Excellent stuff Jessica and very useful. What filler are you using there?
Jessica Posted November 30, 2012 Author Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) It's a North American brand called Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty. It's very similar to Squadron's Green Stuff except it's red and about 1/8th the price for an equivalent amount. Not to mention that the tube is 4 times the size of a Green Stuff tube. 3M's Acryl putty is similar. Edited December 3, 2012 by Jessica
Jessica Posted December 3, 2012 Author Posted December 3, 2012 The primer reveals where I still have to do more work with the filler.
CliffB Posted December 3, 2012 Posted December 3, 2012 The primer reveals where I still have to do more work with the filler. Not bad at all though Jessica, considering how much you've had to do so far. Cliff
Kev1n Posted December 3, 2012 Posted December 3, 2012 at least your getting to the end of the filling and sanding filling and sanding part...nice going
Jessica Posted December 13, 2012 Author Posted December 13, 2012 I'm happy with the end of this round of fill, sand, prime, so now it's on to the white base coat.
Graeme H Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) This is really coming together now Jessica, looks almost ready to fly Edited December 14, 2012 by Graeme H
viscount806x Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 . A nice airplane spoiled by being about 10 years too late for its time. And the fact that it was a death trap.....
Jessica Posted December 15, 2012 Author Posted December 15, 2012 And the fact that it was a death trap..... How so? Only 3 passenger Tudors crashed, and the worst of those was due to overloading, not any fault of the aircraft. The other two are more mysterious, but one could quite reasonably have been controlled flight into terrain.
viscount806x Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) How so? Only 3 passenger Tudors crashed, and the worst of those was due to overloading, not any fault of the aircraft. The other two are more mysterious, but one could quite reasonably have been controlled flight into terrain. You are right of course about the 'death trap' thing and I was being a bit over facetious, but it was an astoundingly mediocre design being cancelled by BOAC before delivery due to falling well short of performance expectations and handling quality. It looks like there were seven losses out of 38 airframes with one being, as you say, due to CFIT. Going back to the death trap thing, perhaps the worst travesty was the loss of the one with the designer on board, Chadwick, due to cross connecting of the aileron controls - a design feature which shouldn't have been even possible let alone the quality lapses by the engineers who did it during maintenance. That doesn't of course detract from your excellent model. Now, how about discussing a real engineers aeroplane the DH121 Trident - a proper triumph of complexity over economy. So fixable yet so thirsty! BEA did it again to Lockheeds many years later with the dreadful L1011, ensuring that only a few got built. We lived in fear of it on a nightshift during my days in engineering. Edited December 15, 2012 by viscount806x
Jessica Posted December 15, 2012 Author Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) ... but it was an astoundingly mediocre design... I think that many if not most post-war British designs suffered from this flaw, due to exceedingly poor specifications and egregious interference from the Air Ministry. How an industry which was able to produce such masterpieces as the Spitfire, Mosquito and Lancaster was hobbled by bureaucrats is one of the most sordid tales of postwar history. Edited December 15, 2012 by Jessica
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