G.A.L. Hotspur

[Valerdos]

Hi all.

Could you help me with Hotspur MK II making? I have some questions, Google does not want to share info

1. where wing's nav lights were installed?

2. where can I find photos or drawings of british airfield trolley like this: yellow hotspur with trolley But on this photo seems it modern, not wwii period

Thanks for photo, links, opinions..

Edited March 7, 2012 by Valerdos

[Ed Russell]

where wing's nav lights were installed?

Welcome to BM

The cutaway drawing I have suggests there were only nav lights in extreme nose and tail

[Valerdos]

Thank you for your answer, Ed.

Well, I thought so too, but what that (we can see there two different type lights):

http://www.spitfirespares.com/spitfirespar...lighting.2.html

Edited March 7, 2012 by Valerdos

[gingerbob]

Interesting! Looking at your reference link, I'd say the first goes on the nose, and the second (with white "third") on the tail. Very reminiscent of the lights for small boats. Both having combined red and green, they do seem to belong on the centerline.

bob

[Aeronut]

Valerdos I've sent you a PM, but if anyone else is interested the Spitfirespares web site shows two types (nose and wingtip) of bicoloured nav lights credited to the Hotspur. According to the Hotspur Illustrated Parts Catalogue I have, there were only 2 lightbulbs in total on the Hotspur, one each in the nose and the tail.

[Dave Fleming]

Hi all.

Could you help me with Hotspur MK II making? I have some questions, Google does not want to share info

1. where wing's nav lights were installed?

2. where can I find photos or drawings of british airfield trolley like this: yellow hotspur with trolley But on this photo seems it modern, not wwii period

Thanks for photo, links, opinions..

The photo is post war, but only 1946 going by the file description. The additional light on the side is possibly an addition for the ECFS?

Edited March 7, 2012 by Dave Fleming

[Ed Russell]

there were only 2 lightbulbs in total on the Hotspur, one each in the nose and the tail.

[Valerdos]

Many thanks. Clear that the question about nav lights can be closed.

Could you direct my search regarding tail-carry dolly?

[Ed Russell]

Could you direct my search regarding tail-carry dolly?

Unfortunately not - I have had a look through AP 2092A on the Hotspur (from whence the drawing came) and it doesn't mention dollies.

[dogsbody]

I'm not sure a dolly was used. Here are some photos from the Imperial War Museum's collection.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/search?q...e=10&page=1

[Valerdos]

Ok, without dolly at this time, maybe in future..

[John Aero]

I would suggest that the trolley was a post war local manufacture item for ease of handling on hard runways/hard standings. Wartime use of training gliders would have been on grass airfields such as Croughton, Netheravon and Weston on the Green. Normally towed on the ground with the air towing hook.

John

Ok, without dolly at this time, maybe in future..

[Valerdos]

I understand. Something like that: http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy169/1...JeepHotspur.jpg

[OneEighthBit]

Hi Valderos,

A bit late to the topic but thought I'd add some stuff.

For the standard MkII fit the Hotspur had 2 lights - the nose light was a split red/green part no. 5C/1676 and was fitted on the tip of the nose or above depending on if the glider had a belly or nose tow point. The tail light was a 5C/495 with a red lens.

As part of the Hotpsur MkII-T/MkIII spec, a third light was added - this was an upward identification light fitting to the top of the fuselage behind the rear pilot underneath the rear canopy perspex. Based on the drawings I have I believe it was a 5C/909 with a clear lens. The electrical system on the Hotspur changed about 3 times during it's lifetime depending on it if had the third light, TR9 radio or a 12v or 24 accumulator fitted.

The yellow Hotspur picture you're using as reference is a MkII that has been fitted with *some* of the service modifications that were defined as part of the MkIII specifications but isn't a full conversion. It only has the nose and tail lamps for a start. It's also got the tail braces, flare chute installed and what appears to be a custom built shroud around the pitot tubes.

There is also one interesting feature that I've only seen on this particular glider and thats the small protrusion sticking out between the pitot tubes and the lamp. I'm unsure exactly what it is but based on it's position and being in line with the cockpit instrument panel it's possible it's part of the connection for the MkI cable angle indicator.

Interesting picture of the Hotspur being towed by the Jeep - I'd not seen that one before. The fuselage code style and pegasus badge gives it away as being one fo the GPEU gliders based at Netheravon but that Jeep looks distinctly american and so do the uniforms of the people driving it. Any more information on the picture and where it was taken?

[Valerdos]

>OneEighthBit

Thank you very much for interesting addition

>Any more information on the picture and where it was taken?

Well, sorry, but i have not any info about it origin. I've got the link from similar topic about Hotspur at russian forum.

You could ask there, i think:

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9337

Edited May 8, 2012 by Valerdos

[Valerdos]

Hi..it's me..again

On the drawing at 7th post we can see ventilator designation marked by no 11..what it real look like was? i want to make it's imitation..

[Valerdos]

One more..Where can I get info about different technical signs/legends <upd:well, I've the right word now - stencils> on RAF WWII planes/gliders like "DO NOT LIFT HERE" and so on..?

Edited February 26, 2014 by Valerdos

[Valerdos]

Thanks to all for your help.

The results of build from past years:

 

[Ratch]

Is this the Frog 1/72 kit?

[Valerdos]

Yes

[JWM]

That is avery nice result indeed. Actually I thought that it is scratch build in 1/32 scale...

You should give it on RFI to have a proper response and audience.

Congratulations!

J-W

 

[Aeronut]

Superb. That is by far the best Hotspur build I’ve seen.

[Seahawk]

Always nice when someone says thank you for help received.

 

That's an absolutely lovely build of the Frog Hotspur.  Well done!

[Valerdos]

Thank you guys ☺ it was not easy, but i like what I've got at the end ☺

[OneEighthBit]

That's an amazing result considering what a difficult kit it is to start with in terms of technical accuracy! You've done a great job and added some really nice details and the finish is excellent.

 

I can't believe it's been almost 8 years since I gave you some details - I wish I'd known you were still working on it as I've uncovered so much more about the glider since then I could of given you so much more help!

 

Regardless, excellent result!